A running VM's page read its addresses while it rendered: the guest agent,
when its channel is connected but it does not answer, holds the page (and
a gunicorn worker) for its whole 10 s timeout, on every load. The page now
shows them once it has loaded: vm_addresses.js asks the new
instances/<pk>/addresses/ for each NIC's addresses and fills the header's
IPv4 and each network card's IPv4 and IPv6.
The Computes page, the host overview and the new-VM dialog's capacity line
read each VM's XML for its memory and vCPUs: a round trip a VM, about
200 ms for 150 VMs on a LAN, more with each host. libvirt's domain stats
give them for every VM in one call; a running VM busy with a job is not
waited for (NOWAIT) and its sizes come from its XML as before.
- A migration whose libvirt call failed but which recovery finds moved (or
cannot tell) gets a row of that end; only a failure already logged by
migrate_instance is not logged twice.
- A clone made with its resize or start failed, and a recovered migration
whose autostart or NVRAM step failed, write a failed row of that step, as
migrate_instance does for its later steps.
- Setting the link state of an interface or the video model of a VM that
has none is refused: it changed nothing and was logged as done.
- The rows of a removed VM record (deleted or expired) name its host, VM
and UUID, so the VM's history has them.
- libvirt errors all answered 400. A VM, pool or volume the host does not
have now answers 404, a volume in use 409 (vrtManager.util.InUse) and a
host that cannot be reached 503, which a client may retry.
- A template's power on or cycle and a stopped pool answered
{"status": ...} with 409; they answer {"detail": ...}, as every other
refusal. The schema documents these 409s (ErrorSerializer).
- The volume list and a volume of a stopped pool answered 200 with an
empty list or a made-up volume; they answer 409.
- An API URL that names nothing answered the HTML error page; it answers
a JSON 404 after the API's authentication.
- A session that must change its password was redirected to the HTML
form; an API request of it gets the JSON 403 a token gets.
The create page and the API's create take the architecture from the
URL. One the host's capabilities do not list raised a KeyError in
get_dom_cap_xml: an HTML 500 for both. It is now "This host has no
architecture noarch": the page shows it, the API answers 400.
English-only texts users read, now in their language:
- the serial console's four refusals, which socketiod sends in the
language LocaleMiddleware would choose (cookie, then browser) and logs
in English; the texts live in console/refusals.py, as makemessages
reads only .py files;
- a submission key reused for another request, a malformed MAC address,
the moved-VM refusal of a script's request, the API's "Templates
cannot be started" (now the page's sentence), "Pool is not active"
and the ISO upload's checks;
- "Problem occurred with host" was a fragment with the host's name and
error after it: one sentence with both.
Since the VM create became a job (6f0c7300) every new VM was defined with
no VNC password, and a clone copied its source's password (or its lack
of one) exactly: every clone of a template shared it. Computes listen
for VNC on all their addresses (dev/libvirt-bootstrap.sh), so anyone who
could reach a compute's VNC ports opened any of these consoles directly,
without the panel; the README's firewall rule was the only guard.
The create job asks for create.py's random 8-character password again,
and a clone's VNC graphics get a new random one. The console page sends
the password to a user with passwordless_console, which the user create
form now ticks by default next to change_password; a user without it is
asked for the password, as the permission intends. Existing VMs keep
their settings.
Live create, clone and VM page tests pass on a TCP compute.
Tests that build vrtManager objects and touch no view, form or model of
an app lived in that app; vrtManager/tests already holds such tests, so
the convention was split. They move to vrtManager/tests: the firmware,
CPU mode and PCIe port definitions of a new VM (test_create), USB and PCI
host devices, the console listener, host CPU reads, interface reads,
deletes and XML, network filters, PCI passthrough rules, node devices,
network changes, addresses and leases, pool XML, secrets, and the live
tests that use vrtManager only (disk resize, ISO, snapshots, XML, live
clone). livetest.py, the live-test helper six apps import, and the
network test driver move with them.
Others go to their app: the quota with a host down to instances, the
401/403 Logs rows (webvirtcloud's middleware) to webvirtcloud, the VM
page's tab script test to instances, novncd's own tests out of the
console views tests, the compute lock and input validation tests out of
the computes views tests, the interface views out of the forms tests.
instances/tests/test_views.py, entirely live, is test_live_views.py.
Test modules imported fixtures from each other; shared ones are now in
vrtManager/tests/fakes.py (migration fakes, node devices, IOMMU groups,
leases, a NAT network, a Ceph secret), interfaces/tests/fakes.py,
console/tests/daemons.py (novncd loaded once), livetest.wait_for and
instances/tests/create_page.BODY. Every live test checks
livetest.enabled(). The suite runs the same 2097 tests.
Five tests only acquired and released the lock and asserted nothing.
They now check, from another thread, that a reader lets readers in and
keeps writers out, that a writer keeps everyone out, and that a nested
or upgraded lock is held until its last release.
- 25 vrtManager test modules configured settings themselves when Django
had none (MAC_OUI, and in test_network_ip a fake django module): under
manage.py test settings are always configured, so it never ran.
- webvirtcloud/tests/test_common_tags.py tested no tag: it fetched an
unknown URL, as test_error_pages and test_logging already do.
- .gitignore covers the parallel runs' test_db_N.sqlite3 files too.
Each was checked with git grep across every tracked file (templates, JS,
shell, unit files and the extensionless console daemons) and for
dynamic use (URL names, template names, registries):
- vrtManager: host_is_up, is_kvm_supported, get_emulators,
get_file_extensions, both get_network_forward, get_snapshots,
get_storages_images, get_os_type, get_host_arch, the get_pretty_* trio
and, in util, is_kvm_available, randomMAC, get_max_vcpus, compareMAC,
pretty_mem, pretty_bytes and validate_uuid; with them the port
constants only host_is_up read. Some were reached only by their tests,
which go too.
- The flavor edit page: nothing linked to it; flavors are created and
deleted on the Flavors page and edited through the API.
- computes.validate_name, UserForm.identity_has_errors, the has_perm
template tag, the ALLOW_EMPTY_PASSWORD setting nothing reads,
hidePleaseWaitDialog, default_app_config (ignored since Django 4.1)
and the Python < 3.6 lines of secret_generator.py.
The delete ran in the request: undefine, then the VM's record, then its
disk files. A request that died in between (a gunicorn worker past its
timeout, OOM, a restart), or a database write that failed after the
undefine, left a record that later showed as removed outside the panel,
and the disk files the user asked to delete were never deleted.
Deleting a VM is now an instance.delete job. It holds the compute
exclusively, as the request did, so no other VM attaches a file it is
about to delete. The job chooses the files before it stops the VM (a host
that cannot be checked still stops nothing) and records them first. It
then stops and undefines the VM, removes its record, and deletes the
files, each with its own Logs row. Recovery decides from libvirt: a VM
still on its host means the delete failed; a VM gone means libvirt did
it, so recovery removes the record and deletes the recorded files that
are still there.
The page queues the job and returns to the VM page, where the job panel
follows it and opens the VM list when it ends; disks that were kept are
the result's warning. The API's delete answers 202 with the job and
needs a submission_key. backing_path moves to wvmConnect, as recovery
has no domain to ask.
Each poll called info(), then blockStats() for every disk and
interfaceStats() for every NIC: nine calls for a VM with four disks and
two NICs, every 5 s for each open Stats tab. domainListGetStats now gives
the CPU time and every disk's and NIC's counters at once; a counter the
host does not report is -1, as before.
The internal revert's shut-off check ran in the job's run, after its
intent was recorded, so the refusal went to recovery: the job ended
uncertain and kept the VM's claim until a superuser resolved it. The check
(check_internal_revert) now runs in precheck too, so a page older than the
VM's start, or a direct POST, fails the job with the reason.
A web request refused because this process's requests to the host
(HOST_REQUESTS) all still wait for it raised the same ConnectionFailed as
a host that is down, so the VM page said the host cannot be reached. It
now raises HostBusy; the VM page and the error users who do not see hosts
get say the host is busy and to try again in a moment.
libvirt's default handler printed each error on stderr without saying
where it came from: in Docker those lines went to docker logs, and a
VM page read of a shut-off VM left one there. Every process that talks to
libvirt imports vrtManager.connection, which now registers a silent
handler; the errors still reach their callers as exceptions. The
console callback's own registration is dropped.
A run of failed opens is logged once, at its first failure, and the next
successful open ends it; a close callback and a request refused because the
host's requests still wait are logged each time. The lines go to the app log
of the process (web or job worker).
other_hosts counted the request on its own host again only when the
block ended normally: a quota check that raised left the request
counted on the other host while it went on with its own. The count is
now restored however the block ends.
upload_volume opens the libvirt stream before it creates the volume, but
created the volume outside the block that aborts the stream: a pool that
refused the volume (full, a name taken) left an unfinished stream to be
freed. The creation is now inside that block.
#394 read each host's states in one call and every domain's XML once,
for the title, memory and vCPUs. A user's list shows only their own VMs,
but it read the XML of every VM on those hosts: a user with two VMs on a
host of 300 made about 301 libvirt calls a list load, where the old
per-VM reads made 6.
get_domain_rows takes the UUIDs the list shows and reads only their XML;
the states still come in one call. The capacity reads every domain, as
before.
A host's capacity (Computes page, new VM dialog) came from
get_host_instances, which listed the VMs by ID and by name and then
looked each up, read its XML and its info: four calls a VM, for every
host on the page. It now uses the VM lists' get_domain_rows: the states
in one call and each VM's XML once. get_host_instances had no other
caller and is gone.
Checked on QEMU against the per-VM info of every domain (running, paused,
shut off): the same vCPUs and memory. A VM gone while the host is read
is left out instead of making the host's capacity unreadable.
A VM list row showed the VM's state, memory, vCPUs and title, read
through the VM's own connection object: a lookup by UUID, virDomainGetInfo
and the live XML, one after the other for every VM on the page.
The lists (Instances, grouped or not, and a compute's VMs) now read each
host once: the states in one getAllDomainStats call (the state group
only, as the lists' poll; no other group, so a VM busy in the QEMU
monitor holds nothing up) and the memory, vCPUs and title from each
VM's live XML, which the title already read. Checked on QEMU against
virDomainGetInfo for running, paused and shut-off VMs: the same values.
A VM gone from its host, or a host that cannot be read or fails its
listing, shows its VMs unknown as before. Only the grouped list, a
superuser's, prefetches every host's VMs and owners.
libvirt requires a stream that did not finish to be aborted before it is
freed. The NVRAM download of a shut-off move and upload_volume (NVRAM
upload, cloud-init seed) freed theirs after a failed send, receive or
finish without aborting, on the shared host connection. They abort now;
upload_volume opens its stream before it makes the volume, so the
cleanup has both.
The Resize tab offered vCPU counts only up to the host's logical CPUs.
A VM whose maximum was higher (4 on a 2-CPU host, say) found no option
for it, so the Maximum list showed 1, and a resize of the shut-off VM
lowered its maximum to that without a word.
get_max_cpus() now takes the VM's own maximum as a floor, and the
Instance's vcpu_range passes it. The host's CPU count shown on the page
and used by the clone form is read from the host alone, not from that
range.
A quota refusal put the English name of the quota (cpu, memory, disk,
instance) into a translated sentence, so a Turkish page read "memory
kotası doldu". check_user_quota now returns which quota and its numbers
(QuotaExceeded), each quota has a whole sentence, and the refusals put
that sentence before what is refused; QUOTA_DEBUG adds the numbers as
before. The clone job stores the refusal as a message, so the Jobs page
shows it in its reader's language.
The connection errors of vrtManager (did not answer within, still
waited for, closed, failed with libvirt's text) were English f-strings;
they are messages now, each close reason a whole one. A connection
that died without a close callback raised an error reading "None"; it
now names the host. Logs keep the English text.
wvmInstance kept the guest agent's and the ARP table's addresses from
the first NIC it was asked about, and never read them again on that
object; it carried a lease lookup that was never filled.
The addresses are now one {MAC: (IPv4, IPv6)} read, kept like the
domain XML only inside a cached_reads block: the VM page, which reads
its NICs twice, asks the agent once (it may take its whole timeout),
and a read outside a page's block is a new one. The agent's addresses
still come before the ARP table's.
A request counts on the host it connected to last. A quota check reads
every host of the user's VMs, and a VM's destruction the other hosts'
files, in the middle of a request that then goes on with the VM's own
host through the objects it kept: it was counted on the last host it
read while it used its own, so a host that does not answer could take
more requests than its limit, and the last host read was charged.
Both checks now give the request back to the host it counted on before.
vrtManager's errors (some 140: a disk that does not move, a network
address outside its subnet, a host device given to another VM, the
disks a migration cannot copy) were English f-strings, so no catalog
could translate them, on pages or in jobs.
They are marked texts with their values now; a variant that differs by
a word (internal or external, running or persistent, with a subnet or
without) is a whole message of its own, and a list of problems is a
list of messages. OperationError reads in the active language, so the
pages that show one translate it as they are; its args stay English, and
so do the logs and the audit log. Host device problems and the Migrate
tab's reasons a disk is not copied are messages too.
A job stored its error and its result's warning as English text, much
of it built with the values in it (volume paths, a disk, libvirt's
error), so no catalog could translate it, and the job pages and panel
showed English whatever the language.
A job now stores them as messages: our English text, marked for
translation, and its values; libvirt's own text is a message without
values and is shown as it is. The jobs API and pages put them in the
reader's language. OperationError keeps its text and values apart for
the same reason, so a refusal raised while a job is submitted is shown
translated too. Messages one after another still read as sentences.
Errors stored before are kept as one message each, shown as they were.
With threaded workers a request waiting on a stuck host holds one
thread, but each new request to that host (a VM list's poll every 5 s,
an F5) held another until the threads ran out.
In a process at most two web requests now use one host at a time,
counted by its name whatever the login. Another waits up to the connect
timeout (5 s) for one of them to end, and is then refused as the host
not answering: VM lists show the host as not reachable, pages show the
connection error. A request counts on the host it connected to last,
until it ends, so one that reads several hosts in turn holds none it
has left. Threads outside a request (the job worker's, the consoles')
are not counted: a job holds its host for as long as it runs.
Two disks of a VM with the same file name in different directories
were both offered the same destination pool by default. The form was
sent, and the migration job refused it only then: both copies would
be one file.
The plan now gives each such disk, by default, a pool no earlier disk
of that name is copied into, and says under its choice that another
disk has the file name. A choice that still puts them in one pool is
refused by the job, as before.
A pool whose refresh failed, one busy with a volume copy for example,
was skipped without a word, so a hand-copied image stayed missing with
no reason given. The other pools are still refreshed; each failure is
shown with libvirt's error.
The API comment no longer says listing the ISO images refreshes pools.
The VM page refreshed every active storage pool to list the ISO images
for its CD-ROM drives. A pool holding large disk images took up to
seconds to refresh, most of the page's time, on every page load.
The page now lists the ISO images libvirt already knows. Images
uploaded through the panel are known at once. For an image copied to a
pool by hand, the Removable media section has a Refresh ISO list button
that refreshes the active pools and returns to the page.
A libvirtError made in a test takes the message of the thread's last real
libvirt error: in a live run, after another test's closed connection,
"no marker" read "client socket is closed" and the test failed. It now
checks that the move raised that very error, as the test after it does.
A VM list showed what it read when it was loaded: a VM stopped from
inside its guest or with virsh, or made or removed elsewhere, showed only
after a reload, unlike the VM page, which reloads when its VM's state
changes. The lists of all VMs and of one host's VMs now poll the states
of their VMs, at once and then every 5 s as the VM page does, and reload
when an answer differs from the one before. The states come from one
libvirt call per host; a user who does not see hosts gets only their own
VMs. The page in use (a dialog, a field, an unsaved XML edit, a job
outcome shown) holds the reload until it is free; that check is shared
with the job panel.
The Migrate tab shows a running VM's live migration switch, on by
default. A VM shut down after the tab opened, as one is to move it shut
off, was then refused: "A shut-off VM cannot be migrated live". A
shut-off VM now moves offline whatever the request says about live, as
the tab tells for a shut-off VM; the tuning options are for a running VM
only, as before. An offline request for a running or paused VM is still
refused.
A shut-off VM with TPM state, as every Windows 11 VM, was refused for
migration: the state is a file of the source host, and an offline move
would start it there with a new TPM. Such a VM now migrates as a shut-off
VM with disks to copy does: its UEFI variables are copied, it is started
paused, its CPUs never run, migrates live, which carries the TPM state,
and is shut off on the destination. A shut-off VM with a saved state is
refused before any of that, for every way it moves: started paused, it
would resume and then lose the saved memory.
The clone tab says that a clone gets a new, empty TPM, and the destroy
page that the TPM state goes with the VM.
A VM made without a TPM, a Windows 10 to be upgraded to Windows 11, had
no way to get one but the XML editor. The Options tab has a TPM 2.0
switch, as the RNG one: it adds an emulated TPM of the host's model to
the definition for the next start, or removes it. Its state stays on the
host until the VM is undefined, so a TPM added again has it back. A TPM
the switch did not make (passthrough, 1.2, encrypted, with its own state
path) is left to the XML editor, and a host without swtpm says so.
A running VM got its new CD-ROM on SCSI, the one bus the panel could plug
in then, and Windows does not see a virtio-scsi drive before the driver
on that ISO is installed. Add CD-ROM is now a dialog that chooses the bus
and the ISO: a running VM takes USB, first, which every guest sees and
which hot-plugs, or SCSI; a shut-off one SATA (IDE on pc), SCSI or USB.
libvirt has no empty USB drive, so a USB CD-ROM takes its ISO when it is
added and is detached instead of ejected, also while the VM runs.
A USB CD-ROM is a CD drive on QEMU's usb-bot only. Where QEMU has none
(RHEL 9), libvirt took usb-storage, which shows the guest a hard disk
that Windows does not read; the drive now asks for usb-bot, and such a
host refuses it with libvirt's message.
Windows 11 does not install without Secure Boot and a TPM 2.0, and the new
VM form offered neither: its firmware list was BIOS and one UEFI loader
guessed from file names, which on RHEL never matched the Secure Boot one.
The firmware choices are now BIOS, UEFI and UEFI Secure Boot, as the
host's libvirt reports them (its firmware features from libvirt 12.1,
before that its loaders), and libvirt picks the firmware itself: UEFI
without Secure Boot, or with Microsoft's keys enrolled. A TPM 2.0 switch,
shown when the host has swtpm, adds an emulated TPM. The create job
refuses a firmware or a TPM the host does not offer, and the API takes
both. The path-guessing helpers are gone.
An existing q35 VM whose PCIe root ports are all used takes no new
virtio disk or network device while it runs, and the only way to give
it more was editing its XML.
The Disks tab of a PCIe machine now counts its slots, "PCIe slots: 0
free of 7", in red when none is free, with what its next start will
have when that differs, and Add PCIe slots adds four root ports to its
persistent definition: libvirt numbers and places them, and a running
VM gets them at its next start. The no-slot advice of Add disk and Add
network device points at it.
On a q35 machine each PCIe device (a virtio disk, a network card) takes
a root port of its own, libvirt makes only as many ports as the VM is
defined with, and a running VM gets no new one: adding a virtio disk to
such a VM failed with libvirt's "No more available PCI slots".
A new q35 VM is now defined with the PCIe root and 14 root ports, as
virt-install makes them: libvirt puts the VM's devices into them and
leaves the rest free for devices added while it runs.
When a running VM has no free slot, Add disk and Add network device say
what to do instead of libvirt's words: for a disk, the scsi bus when
the VM has a SCSI controller (its disks need no slot of their own), or
adding it with the VM shut down, where libvirt makes the port; for a
network device, shutting the VM down. A new volume whose attach was
refused stays in its pool, as before, to attach as an existing volume.
The Edit dialog of a VM's network device selected the listed network
or interface whose name matched the device's source, and the first one
when none did: saving only a new model moved a macvtap device or a
bridge the host's lists did not show onto the first network, a bridge
named like a network became that network, and a macvtap device chosen
again lost its mode.
The dialog now offers the device's own source first, "<name>, as it
is", and posts nothing for it; the view passes no source and the
device's source element is left as it is. Choosing another source
changes it as before.
The Migrate tab offered every other host alike, and its plan showed
neither a file of the same name in a destination pool nor the disks of
the VM's next start, which the job then refused. Now:
- When the tab opens, the hosts are checked first: one that cannot be
reached, or the VM's own host under another record (the same libvirt
host UUID), is shown with why and cannot be chosen, and the disks of
the first one left are checked. The job refuses the VM's own host
under another name too.
- A pool of the destination that has a file of a disk's name is shown
but cannot be chosen for it; a disk no pool can take refuses the form.
- The next start's file disks the migration does not carry are listed;
one not on storage both hosts share refuses the form, as the job does.
Destroying a VM with its disk files forced it off first and then
worked out which files to delete, so a check that failed left the VM
stopped, and only this host's VMs and volumes were checked: a file on
shared storage that a VM on another host uses was deleted.
The files are now worked out before the VM is stopped: the disks it
runs with and those of its next start, as before with their snapshot
files and seed. A file a VM or volume of another of the panel's hosts
uses at the same path (shared storage is mounted at one path on every
host, as migration needs) is kept like one used here; another record
of the VM's own host is skipped, as there the VM itself uses them. A
host that cannot be read stops the destruction with its name, before
anything is stopped or deleted.
A user's quota counted each VM's running vCPUs, memory and disks, so a
larger value set for the VM's next start was not counted, and a clone
counted only once its VM was recorded, so a user could queue clones
past the quota. Now:
- Each VM counts the larger of its running and its next-start values.
- A clone job counts as one VM with the source's persistent vCPUs,
memory and disk size, which its plan stores, from its admission until
its VM is recorded; a failed, cancelled or resolved job no longer
counts. The clone's VM and its owner are recorded in one transaction,
so the quota counts either the job or the VM, never neither.
- The quota reads each VM's definition once (cached_reads).
The Stats tab stacked one large card per chart, so a VM with a few
devices made a long page, and its "Real Time" and "Logs" sub-tabs were
shown to every user although only a superuser may read the logs. The
owner chose the layout from rendered options: a state line, CPU and
memory side by side, one chart per NIC and disk below, each with its
latest reading next to its title, and a small Graphs/Logs switch for
superusers.
Codex reviewed the tab; this is fixed:
- Memory is shown in MiB (it was labelled MB), and its axis grows to
the RSS when the RSS passes the balloon size instead of clipping it.
- The CPU reading says it is of the host's CPUs.
- A NIC is titled by its MAC, not an invented "eth0", and its readings
are matched to its chart by the MAC: they were matched by position, so
removing a NIC while the page was open moved the next one's readings
into its chart.
- A VM that is not running says nothing is measured.
- The logs load whenever the Logs view is shown, by keyboard too; an
empty answer says "None" and a failed one says so, instead of an
empty table. The tab shows the latest 50 rows, with a link to all of
the VM's rows on the Logs page.
- The VM's header shows memory in MiB; it said MB.
The Destroy tab was a sub-tab with one sentence and a link; its
confirmation page said only "This action is irreversible!" over a
"Remove Instance's data" switch. The tab now shows the state and
"Review destruction". The owner chose the confirmation layout from
three rendered options: the VM and its host, that its definition,
saved state and snapshot records go and that a running VM is forced
off, two plans for the files (delete the disk files, or keep them), the
VM's disks, what is always kept, the NVRAM choice, and Cancel.
Codex reviewed destroying; this is fixed:
- A disk file that cannot be deleted keeps the files below it, which
it needs: they were deleted after it, leaving it broken. The files
are deleted overlays first (split_disk_paths_by_use orders them by
how many files each grows from), and if the files a kept one needs
cannot be read, none of the rest goes. A message names each file
kept so, and a failed deletion says the VM is removed.
The Snapshots tab had three sub-tabs: internal, external and the
lists, with the two kinds side by side as equals. The owner set the
direction: external snapshots are the way; internal ones pause the VM
while its memory is saved and can take long, so they stay only as a
fallback for a VM that cannot take an external one.
The tab now has the external snapshot form on top, its name and
description on one line, with its memory and freeze options; the
internal snapshot under a folded "fallback" line with its warning; and
one list of all snapshots, newest first, each on one line with its
name, description, kind and date, and Revert and Delete.
Codex reviewed snapshots end to end; these are fixed:
- The pause and memory lines follow the VM's state and the kind.
- An internal snapshot is reverted to on a shut-off VM only, on the
server too; the tab alone held that rule.
- A paused VM's revert says it comes back paused, not that it starts.
- An external snapshot waits, with the reason, while snapshots newer
than the one reverted to exist; the server refused it unexplained.
- Deleting an external snapshot says its files are merged with the
disks; "into the next one" was wrong for the last one.
- The description has no 45-character limit only the browser kept.
- Freezing is not shown ticked where it cannot be offered, and
unticking memory gives back the earlier freeze choice.
- Internal create, revert and delete refuse a saved state or a running
disk job, as external ones do.